When Real-Time is No Longer Good Enough, the Predictive Business Emerges

Transcript of a BriefingsDirect podcast on how a predictive business strategy enables staying competitive, and not just surviving -- but thriving -- in fast-paced and dynamic markets.

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Dana Gardner: Hi, this is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and you're listening to BriefingsDirect. Today, we present a sponsored podcast discussion examining a momentous shift in business strategy. Join us as we explore the impact that big data, cloud computing, and mobility are having on how businesses must act and react in their markets.

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We'll explore how the agility goal of real-time responses is no longer good enough. What’s apparent across more business ecosystems is that businesses must do even better to become so data-driven that they extend their knowledge and ability to react well into the future. In other words, we're now all entering the era of the predictive business.

To learn more about how heightened competition amid a data revolution requires businesses and IT leaders to adjust their thinking to the next, and the next, and the next move on their respective chess boards, join me with our guest for today, Tim Minahan, the Chief Marketing Officer for SAP Cloud. Welcome, Tim. [Disclosure: SAP Cloud is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

Tim Minahan: Thanks for having me, Dana.

Gardner: It’s hard to believe that the pace of business agility continues to accelerate. Tim, what’s driving this time-crunch? What are some of the changes afoot that require this need for -- and also enabling the capabilities to deliver on -- this notion of predictive business? We're in some sort of a rapid cycle of cause and effect, and it’s rather complicated.

Minahan: This is certainly not your father’s business environment. Big is no longer a guarantee to success. If you just look at the past 10 years, 40 percent of the Fortune 500 was replaced. So the business techniques and principles that worked 10, 5 or even three years ago are no longer relevant. In fact, they maybe a detriment to your business.

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Just ask companies like Tower Records, Borders Bookstore, or any of the dozens more goliaths that were unable or unwilling to adapt to this new empowered customer or to adapt new business models that threatened long-held market structures and beliefs.

The world, as you just said, is changing so unbelievably fast that the only constant is change. And to survive, businesses must constantly innovate and adapt. Just think about it. The customer today is now more connected and more empowered and more demanding.

You have one billion people in social networks that are talking about your brand. In fact, I was just reading a recent study that showed Fortune 100 companies were mentioned on social channels like Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn a total of 10.5 million times in one month. These comments are really shaping your brand image. They're influencing your customer’s views and buying decisions, and really empowering that next competitor.

But the consumer, as you know, is also mobile. There are more than 15 billion mobile devices, which is scary. There are twice as many smart phones and tablets in use than there are people on the planet. It’s changing how we share information, how we shop, and the levels of service that customers expect today.

It’s also created, as you stated, a heck of a lot of data. More data was created in the last 18 months than had been created since the dawn of mankind. That’s a frightening fact, and the amount of data on your company, on your consumer preferences, on buying trends, and on you will double again in the next 18 months.

Changing consumer

The consumer is also changing. We're seeing an emerging middle class of five billion consumers sprouting up in emerging markets around the world. Guess what? They're all unwired and connected in a mobile environment.

What's challenging for your business is that you have a whole new class of millennials entering the workforce. In fact, by next year, nearly half of the workforce will have been born after 1980 -- making me feel old. These workers just grew up with the web. They are constantly mobile.

These are workers that shun traditional business structures of command-and-control. They feel that information should be free. They want to collaborate with each other, with their peers and partners, and even competitors. And this is uncomfortable for many businesses.

For this always on, always changing world, as you said, real time just isn’t enough anymore. Knowing in real time that your manufacturing plant went down and you won’t be able to make the holiday shipping season -- it’s just knowing that far too late. Or knowing that your top customer just defected to your chief competitor in real time is knowing that far too late. Even learning that your new SVP of sales, who looks so great on paper, is an awful fit with your corporate culture or your go-to-market strategy is just knowing that far too late.

But to your point, what disrupts can also be the new advantage. So technology, cloud, social, big data, and mobile are all changing the face of business. The need is to exploit them and not to be disrupted by them.

Gardner: What’s interesting, Tim, is that the tools and best practices that you might use to better understand your external world, your market, your supply chain, and your ecosystem of partners is also being applied internally.

Too often, we get enamored with the technology side of the story, but the biggest change that’s going to occur in business is going to be the culture change.

These are issues that are affecting companies to operate better internally, organizationally, managing their staff, their employees and how they're working differently -- but at the same time, we had this outward-facing need, too. Another dimension of complexity here is that you not only have to change the way you're operating vis-à-vis your employees, but your customers, partners, supply chain, etc. as well. How does the predictive business create a whole greater than the sum of the parts when we think about this on the total shift internal and external?

Minahan: Too often, we get enamored with the technology side of the story, but the biggest change that’s going to occur in business is going to be the culture change. There's  the need to adapt to this new millennial workforce and this new empowered customer and the need to reach this new emerging middle-class around the world.

In today’s fast-paced business world, companies really need to be able to predict the future with confidence, assess the right response, and then have the agility organizationally and systems-wise to quickly adapt their business processes to capitalize on these market dynamics and stay ahead of the competition.

They need to be able to harness the insights of disruptive technologies of our day, technologies like social, business networks, mobility, and cloud to become this predictive business.

Not enough

I want to be clear here that the predictive business isn't just about advanced analytics. It’s not just about big data. That’s certainly a part of it, but just knowing something is going to happen, just knowing about a market opportunity or a pending risk just isn’t enough.

You have to have that capacity and insight to assess a myriad of scenarios to detect the right course of action, and then have the agility in your business processes, your organizational structures, and your systems to be able to adapt to capitalize on these changes.

Gardner: Tim, you and I have been talking for several years now about the impact of cloud. We were also trying to be predictive ourselves and to extrapolate and figure out where this is going. I think it turns out that it’s been even more impactful than we thought.

How about the notion of having a cloud partner, maybe not only your own cloud, but a hybrid or public cloud environment, where the agility comes from working with a new type of delivery mode or even a whole new type of IT model?

Minahan: We've seen the impact of cloud. You've probably heard a lot about it. You've been tracking it for years. The original discussion was all about total cost of ownership (TCO). It was all about the cost benefits of the cloud. While the cloud certainly offers a cost advantage, the real benefit the cloud brings to business is in two flavors -- innovation and agility.

There's now the agility at the business level to configure new business processes without costly IT or consulting engagements.

You're seeing rapid innovation cycles, albeit incremental innovation updates, several times per year that are much more digestible for a company. They can see something coming, be able to request an innovation update, and have their technology partner several times a year adapt and deliver new functionality that’s immediately available to everyone.

Then there's now the agility at the business level to configure new business processes without costly IT or consulting engagements. With some of the more advanced cloud platforms, they can even create their own process extensions to meet the unique needs of their industry and their business.

Gardner: It’s also, I think, a little bit of return to the past, when we think about the culture and the process. It’s been 20 years plus since people started talking about reengineering their business processes to accommodate technology. Now the technology has accelerated to such a degree that we can start really making progress on productivity and quality vis-à-vis these new approaches.

So without going too far into the past, how is the notion of business transformation being delivered now, when we think about being predictive, using these technology tools, different delivery models, and even different cultures?

Minahan: You're already seeing examples of the predictive business in action across industries today. Leading companies are turning that combination of insight, the big data analytics, and these agile computing models and organizational structures into entirely new business models and competitive advantage.

Strategic marketing

Let’s just look at some of these examples that are before us. Take Cisco, where their strategic marketing organization not only mines historical data around what prompted people to buy, or what they have bought, and what were their profiles. They married that with real-time social media mentions to look for customers, ferret out customers, who reveal a propensity to buy and a high readiness to buy.

They then arm their sales team, push these signals out to their sales force, and recommended the right offer that would likely convert that customer to buy. That had a massive impact. They saw a sales uplift of more than $4 billion by bringing all of those activities together.

It’s not just in the high-tech sector. I know we talk about that a lot, but we see it in other industries like healthcare. Mount Sinai Hospital in New York examined the historical treatment approaches, survival rates, and the stay duration of the hospitals to determine the right treatments to optimize care and throughput a patient.

It constantly runs and adapts simulations to optimize its patients first 8-12 hours in the hospital. With improved utilization based on those insights and the ability to adapt how they're handling their patients, the hospital not only improved patient health and survival rates, but also achieved the financial effect of adding hundreds of new beds without physically adding one.

In fact, if you look at it, the whole medical industry is built on predictive business models using the symptoms of millions of patients to diagnose new patients and to determine the right courses of action.

So all around us, businesses are beginning to adapt and take advantage of these predictive business models.

Closer to home for you Dana, there is also an example of the predictive business, I don’t know if you've read Nate Silver's phenomenal book, "The Signal and the Noise," but he talks about going beyond Moneyball, and how the Boston Red Sox were using predictive systems that really have changed how baseball drafts rookie players.

The difference between Moneyball and rookies is that rookies don’t have a record in the pros. There's no basis from which to determine what their on-base percentage will be or how they will perform. But this predictive model goes beyond standard statistics here and looks at similar attributes of other professional players to determine who are the right candidates that they should be recruiting and projecting what their performance might be based on a composite of other players that have like-attributes.

Their first example of this on the Red Sox was with Dustin Pedroia, who no one wanted to recruit. They said he was too short, too slow, and not the right candidate to play second base. But using this new model, the Red Sox modeled him against previous players and found out some of the best second basemen in the world actually have similar attributes.

So they wanted to take him early in the draft. The first year, he took the rookie of the year title in 2007 and helped the Red Sox win the world series for only the second time, since 1918. He's gone on to win the MVP the following year, and he’s been a top all star performer ever since.

So all around us, businesses are beginning to adapt and take advantage of these predictive business models.

Change in thinking

Gardner: It's curious that when you do take a data-driven approach, you have to give up some of the older approaches around intuition, gut instinct, or some of the metrics that used to be important. That really requires you to change your thinking and, rather than go to the highest paid person’s opinion when you need to make a decision, it's really now becoming more of a science.

So what do you get Tim when you do this correctly? The Red Sox, they got to win a World Series and they've been able to have a very strong club much more consistently than in the past. But what do businesses get when they become more data-driven, when they adjust their culture, take advantage of some of the new tools, and recognize the shift, the consumer behavior? How impactful can this be?

Minahan: It can be tremendously impactful. We truly believe that you get a whole new world of business. You get a business model and organizational and systems infrastructure that has the ability to adapt to all the massive transformation and the rapid changes that we discussed earlier. We believe the predictive business will transform every function within the enterprise and across the value chain.

Just think of sales and marketing. Sales and marketing professionals, as we just talked about with Cisco, will now be empowered to engage customers like never before by tapping into social activity, buying activity on business networks, and geo-location insights to identify prospects and develop optimal offers and engage and influence perspective customers right at the point of purchase.

It can be tremendously impactful. We truly believe that you get a whole new world of business.

I think of pushing offers, coupons, to mobile devices of prospective buyers based on their social finger print and their actual physical location or service organizations. We talk about this Internet of things. We haven’t even scratched a surface on this, but they can massively drive customer satisfaction and loyalty to new levels by predicting and proactively resolving potential product or service disruption even before they happen.

Think about your device being able to send a signal and demonstrate a propensity to break down in the future. It may be possible to send a firmware update to fix it without your even knowing.

That’s the power that we’ve already seen with this type of thing in the supply chain. Procurement, logistics and supply chain teams are now being alerted to potential future risks in their sub-tier supply chains and being guided to alternative suppliers based on optimal resolutions and community-generated ratings and buying patterns of like buyers on a business network. We've talked about that in the past.

We really believe that the future of business is the predictive business. The predictive business is not going to be an option going forward. It's not a luxury. It will be what's required not only to win, but eventually, to survive. Your customers are demanding it, your employees are requiring it, and your livelihood is going to depend on it.

The need to adapt

Gardner: I suppose we're seeing instances where newer companies, upstarts, easily enter the market. Because they're not encumbered by past practices, using some of these newer tools can actually make a tremendous amount of headway for them.

Tesla Motors comes to mind as one reflection of that. Netflix is another that shows how disruptive the company can be in the short term. But we're not just talking about green field companies. We're talking about the need for entrenched global enterprises to be able to move quickly to change and adapt to some of these opportunities for transformation.

Any thoughts before we begin to close out, Tim, on how big companies that have so much complexity, so many moving parts, can start to evolve to be predictive and to be ready for some serious competition?

Minahan: Number one is that you can't have the fear of change. You need to set that aside. At the outset of this discussion, we talked about changes all around us, whether it's externally, with the new empowered consumer who is more informed and connected than ever before, or internally with a new millennial workforce that’s eager to look at new organizational structures and processes and collaborate more, not just with other employees but their peers, and even competitors, in new ways.

That's number one, and probably the hardest thing. On top of that, this isn't just a single technology role. You need to be able to embrace a lot of the new technologies out there. When we look at one of the attributes of an enabling platform for the predictive business, it really comes down to a few key areas.

You have assess multiple scenarios and determine the best course of action faster than ever before.

You need the convenience and the agility of the cloud, improved IT resources and use basically everything as a service -- apps, infrastructure, and platform. You can dial up the capabilities, processing power, or the resource that you need, quickly configure and adapt your business processes at the business level, without massive IT or consulting engagements. Then, you have to have the agility to use some of these new-age cloud platforms to create your own and differentiated business processes and applications.

The second thing is that it's critically important to gather those new insights and productivity, not just from social networks but from business networks, with new rich data sources, from real time market and customer sentiments, through social listening and analytics, the countless bits and histories of transactional and relationship data available on robust business networks.

Then, you have to manage all of this. You also need to advance your analytical capabilities. You need the power and speed of big data, in-memory analytics platforms, and exploiting new architectures like Hadoop and others to enable companies to aggregate, correlate and assess just countless bits of information that are available today and doubling every 18 months.

You have assess multiple scenarios and determine the best course of action faster than ever before. Then, ultimately, one of the major transformational shifts, which is also a big opportunity, is that you need to be able to assess and deliver with ease all of this information to mobile devices.

This is true whether it's your employees who can engage in a process and get insights where they are in the field or whether it's your customer you need to reach, either across the street or halfway around the globe. So the whole here is greater than the sum of the parts. Big data alone is not enough. Cloud alone is not enough. You need all of these enabling technologies working together and leveraging each other. The next-generation business architecture must marry all of these capabilities to really drive this predictive business.

Next generation

Gardner: So clearly at SAP Cloud, you will be giving us a lot of thought. I think you appreciate the large dimension of this, but also the daunting complexity that’s faced in many companies. I hope in our next discussion, Tim, we can talk a little bit about some of the ideas you have about what the next generation of business services platform and agility capability that gets you into that predictive mode would be. Maybe you could just give us a sense very quickly now about the direction and role that an organization like SAP Cloud would play?

Minahan: SAP, as you know, has had a history of helping business continually innovate and drive this next wave of productivity and unlock new value and advantage for the business. The company is certainly building to be this enabling platform and partner for this next wave of business. It's making the right moves both organically and otherwise to enable the predictive business.

If you think about the foundation we just went through and then marry it up against, where SAP is invested and innovated, it's now the leading cloud provider for businesses. More business professionals are using cloud solutions from SAP than from any other vendor.

The company is certainly building to be this enabling platform and partner for this next wave of business.

It's leapt far ahead in the world of analytics and performance with the next generation in-memory platform in HANA. It's the leader in mobile business solutions and social business collaboration with Jam, and as we discussed right here on your show, it now owns the world’s largest and most global business network with the acquisition of Ariba.

That’s more than 1.2 million connected companies transacting over half a trillion dollars worth of commerce, and a new company joining every two minutes to engage, connect, and get more informed to better collaborate. We're very, very excited about the promise of the predictive business and SAPs ability to deliver and innovate on the platform to enable it.

Gardner: Well, great. I'm afraid we'll have to leave it there, but I do expect we’ll be revisiting this topic of the predictive business for quite some time. You've been listening to a sponsored BriefingsDirect podcast discussion on this momentous shift in business strategy to the agility required to become a predictive business.

And we've heard how the business goal of real-time responses is really no longer good enough. We can begin now to plot a course to a better evidence-based insights capability that will allow companies to proactively shape their business goals and align their resources to gain huge advantages first and foremost in their industry. So with that, please join me in thanking our guest, Tim Minahan, Chief Marketing Officer for SAP Cloud. Thanks so much, Tim.

Minahan: Thanks, Dana, it's been great to be here.

Gardner: I would like to also thank our audience for joining us. This is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions. Thanks again for coming, and do come back next time.

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The Networked Economy Newly Forges Innovation Forces for Collaboration in Business and Commerce, Says Author Zach Tumin

Advanced business networks are driving innovation and social interactions as new technologies and heightened user expectations converge.

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Dana Gardner: Hi, this is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and you're listening to BriefingsDirect. Today, we present a sponsored podcast discussion on how new levels of collaboration have emerged from an increasingly networked world, and what that now means for business and society.

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We'll hear from a Harvard Kennedy School researcher and author on how deeper levels of collaboration -- more than ever -- can positively impact how organizations operate. And we'll learn from a global business-commerce network provider how these digital communities are redefining and extending new types of business and collaboration. 

To learn more about how new trends in collaboration and business networking are driving innovation and social interactions, please join me now in welcoming Zach Tumin, Senior Researcher at the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at the Harvard Kennedy School. Welcome, Zach.

Zach Tumin: Good morning, Dana.

Gardner: Zach, you're also the co-author with William Bratton of this year’s Collaborate or Perish: Reaching Across Boundaries in a Networked World, published by Random House. We welcome you to the show.

Tumin: Thank you.

Gardner: We're also joined today by Tim Minahan, Senior Vice-President of Global Network Strategy and Chief Marketing Officer at Ariba, an SAP company. Welcome back, Tim.

Tim Minahan: Thanks, Dana. Good to be here. [Disclosure: Ariba is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

Gardner: Gentlemen, let's set the stage here, because we have a really big topic. Zach, in your book "Collaborate or Perish," you're exploring collaboration and you show what it can do when it's fully leveraged. It's very interesting. And Tim, at Ariba you've been showing how a more networked economy is producing efficiencies for business and even extending the balance of what we would consider commerce to be.

I’d like to start with looking at how these come together. First, we have new types of collaboration and then we have the means to execute on them through these new business networks. What should we expect when these come together? Let's go to you first, Zach.

Tumin: Thanks, Dana. The opportunities for collaboration are expanding even as we speak. The networks around the world are volatile. They're moving fast. The speed of change is coming at managers and executives at a terrific pace. There is an incredible variety of choice, and people are empowered with these great digital devices that we all have in our pockets.

Tumin

That creates a new world, where the possibilities are tremendous for joining forces, whether politically, economically, or socially. Yet it's also a difficult world, where we don't have authority, if we have to go outside of our organizations -- but where we don't have all the power that we need, if we stay within the boundaries of our charters.

So, we're always reaching across boundaries to find people who we can partner with. The key is how we do that. How do we move people to act with us, where we don't have the authority over them? How do we make it pay for people to collaborate?

A lot of change

Gardner: Tim, we've seen lots of change in last 20 years, and a lot of times, we'll see behavioral shifts. Then, at other times, we'll see technology shifts. Today, we seem to be having both come together. Based on what Zach has described in this unprecedented level of change in adaptation, where do you see the big payoffs for business in terms of leveraging collaboration in the context of a vast network?

Minahan: Collaboration certainly is the new business imperative. Companies have leaned out their operations over the past couple of years and they spent the previous 30 years focusing on their internal operations and efficiencies and driving greater performance, and getting greater insights.

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When they look outside their enterprise today, it's still a mess. Most of the transactions still occur offline or through semi-automated processes. They lack transparency into those processes and efficiency in executing them. As a result, that means lots of paper and lots of people and lots of missed opportunities, whether it's in capitalizing on getting a new product to market or achieving new sales with new potential customers.

What business networks and this new level of collaboration bring is four things. It brings the transparency that’s currently lacking into the process. So you know where your opportunities are. You know where your orders are. You know where your invoices are and what your exposure to payables are.

It brings new levels of efficiencies executing against those processes, much faster than you ever could before through mostly automated process.

It brings new levels of efficiencies executing against those processes, much faster than you ever could before through mostly automated process. It brings new types of collaboration which I am sure we will get into later in this segment.

The last part, which I think is most intriguing, is that it brings new levels of insights. We're no longer making decisions blindly. We no longer need to double order, because we don’t know if that shipment is coming in and we need to stockpile, because we can't let the refinery go down. So it brings new levels of insight to make more informed decisions in real time.

Gardner: One of the things I sense, as people grapple with these issues, is a difficulty in deciding where to let creative chaos rein and where to exercise control and where to lock down and exercise traditional IT imperatives around governance, command and control, and systems of records.

Zach, in your book with William Bratton, are there any examples that you can point to that show how some organizations have allowed that creativity of people to extend their habits and behaviors in new ways unfettered and then at the same time retain that all-important IT control?

Tumin: It's a critical question that you’ve raised. We have young people coming into the workforce who are newly empowered. They understand how to do all the things that they need do without waiting online and without waiting for authority. Yet, they're coming into organizations that have strong cultures that have strong command-and-control hierarchies.

There's a clash that’s happening here, and the strong companies are the ones that find the path to embracing the creativity of networked folks within the organization and across their boundaries, while maintaining focus on set of core deliverables that everyone needs to do.

Wells Fargo

There are plenty of terrific examples. I will give you one. At Wells Fargo, for the development of the online capability for the wholesale shop, Steve Ellis was Executive Vice President. He had to take his group offline to develop the capability, but he had two responsibilities. One was to the bank, which had a history of security and trust. That was its brand. That was its reputation. But he was also looking to the online world, to variability, to choice, and to developing exactly the things that customers want.

Steve Ellis found a way of working with his core group of developers to engage customers in the code design of Wells Fargo's online presence for the wholesale side. As a result, they were able to develop systems that were so integrated into the customers over time that they can move very, very quickly, adapt as new developments required, and yet they gave full head to the creativity of the designers, as well as to the customers in coming to these new ways of doing business.

So here's an example of a pretty staid organization, 150 years old with a reputation for trust and security, making its way into the roiling water of the networked world and finding a path through engagement that helped to prevail in the marketplace over a decade.

Gardner: Tim Minahan, for the benefit of our audience, help us better understand how Ariba is helping to fuel this issue of allowing creativity and new types of collaboration, but at the same time maintaining that the important principles of good business.

Minahan: Absolutely, Dana. The problem we solve at Ariba is quite basic, yet one of the biggest impediments to business productivity and performance that still exists. That's around inter-enterprise collaboration or collaboration between businesses.

We talked about the deficits there earlier. Through our cloud-based applications and business network, we eliminate all of the hassles, the papers, the phone calls, and other manual or disjointed activities that companies do each day to do things like find new suppliers, find new business opportunities as a seller, to place or manage orders, to collaborate with customers suppliers and other partners, or to just get paid.

They can connect with known trading partners much more efficiently and then automate the processes and the information flows between each other.

Nearly a million business today are digitally connected through the Ariba Network. They're empowered to discover one another in new ways, getting qualifying information from the community, so that they know who that party is even if they haven’t met them before. It's similar to what you see on eBay. When you want to sell your golf clubs, you know that that buyer has a performance history of doing business with other buyers.

They can connect with known trading partners much more efficiently and then automate the processes and the information flows between each other. Then, they can collaborate in new ways, not only to find one another, but also to get access to preferred financing or new insights into market trends that are going on around particular commodities.

That’s the power of bringing a business network to bear in today’s world. It's this convergence of cloud applications, the ability to access and automate a process. Those that share that process share the underlying infrastructure and a digitally connected community of relevant parties, whether that’s customers, suppliers, potential trading partners, banking partners, or other participants involved in the commerce process.

Gardner: Zach, in your book and in your earlier comments, you're basically describing almost a new workforce and some companies and organizations are recognizing that and embracing it. What’s driving this? What has happened that is basically redefining a workforce and how it relates to itself and to the customer or, in many cases, for businesses across the ecosystem of the suppliers and then the channels and distribution? What’s behind this fairly massive shift in what workforces are?

It's the demographics

Tumin: It’s in the demographics, Dana. Young people are accustomed to doing things today that were not possible 10 years ago. The digital power in everyone’s pocket or pocket book, the digital wallet in markets, are ready, willing, and able to deal with them and to welcome them. That means that there’s pressure on organizations to integrate and take advantage of the power that individuals have in the marketplace and that come in to their workforce.

Everyone can see what's going on around the world. We're moving to a situation where young people are feeling pretty powerful. They're able to search, find, discover, and become experts all on their own through the use of technologies that 10 years ago weren’t available.

So a lot of the traditional ways of thinking about power, status, and prestige in the workforce are changing as a result, and the organizations that can adapt and adopt these kinds of technologies and turn them to their advantage are the ones that are going to prevail.

Gardner: Tim, with that said, there's this demographic shift, the shift in the mentality of self-started discovery of recognizing that the information you want is out there, and it’s simply a matter of applying your need to the right data and then executing on some action as a result. Your network seems ready-made for that. I know that you guys have been at this for some time. It seems like the events, these trends, have coalesced in a way that that really suits your strength.

Tell me why you think that’s the case that this vision you had at Ariba a decade or more ago has come about. Is there something fundamental about the Internet or were you guys just in the right place at the right time?

The reality of the community is that it is organic. It takes time to grow.

Minahan: The reality of the community is that it is organic. It takes time to grow. At Ariba we have more than 15 years of transactional history, relationship history, and community generated content that we've amassed. In fact, over the past 12 months those, nearly a million connected companies have executed more than $400 billion in purchase, sales, invoice, and payment transactions over the Ariba network.

Aggregate that over 15 years, and you have some great insights beyond just trading efficiencies for those companies participating there. You can deliver insights to them so that they can make more informed decisions, whether that’s in selecting a new trading partner or determining when or how to pay.

Should I take an early-payment discount in order to accelerate or reduce my cost basis? From a sales standpoint, or seller’s standpoint, should I offer an early payment discount in order to accelerate my cash flow? There are actually a host of examples where companies are taking advantage of this today and it’s not just for the large companies. Let me give you two examples.

From the buyer side, there was a company called Plaid Enterprises. Plaid is a company that, if you have daughters like I do who are interested in hobbies and creating crafts, you are very familiar with. They're one of the leading providers for the do-it-yourself crafts that you would get at your craft store.

Like many other manufacturers, they were a mid sized company, but they decided a couple of years ago to offshore their supplies. So they went to the low cost region of China. A few years into it, they realized that labor wages were rising, their quality was declining, and worse than that, it was sometimes taking them five months to get their shipment.

New sources of supply

So they went to the Ariba Network to find new sources of supply. Like many other manufacturers, they thought, "Let’s look in other low cost regions like Vietnam." They certainly found suppliers there, but what they also found were suppliers here in North America.

They went through a bidding process with the suppliers they found there, with the qualifying information on who was doing business with whom and how they performed in the past, and they wound up selecting a supplier that was 30 miles down the road. They wound up getting a 40 percent cost reduction from what they had previously paid in China and their lead times were cut from more than 120 days down to 30.

That’s from the buy side. From the sell side, the inverse is true. I'll use an example of a company called Mediafly. It's a fast growing company that provides mobile marketing services to some of the largest companies in the world, large entertainment companies, large consumer products companies.

They were asked to join the Ariba Network to automate their invoicing and they have gotten some great efficiencies from that. They've gotten transparencies to know when their invoice is paid, but one other thing was really interesting.

Once they were in the networked environment and once they had automated those processes, they were now able to do what we call dynamic discounting. That meant when they want their cash, they can make offers to their customers that they're connected to on the Ariba Network and be able to accelerate their cash.

You have extraordinary volatility on your network and that can rumble all the way through.

So they were able not only to shrink their quote-to-settle cycle by 84 percent, but they gained access to new financing and capital through the Ariba network. So they could go out and hire that new developer to take on that new project and they were even able to defer a next round of funding, because they have greater control over their cash flow.

Gardner: Zach, in listening to Tim, particularly that discovery process, we're really going back to some principles that define being human -- collaboration, word of mouth, sharing information about what you know. It just seems that we have a much greater scale that we can deploy this. As Tim was saying, you can look to supply chains in China, Vietnam, or in your own neighborhood that you might not have known, but you will discover.

Help me understand why the scale here is important? We can scale up and scale down. How is that fundamentally changing how people are relating in business and society?

Tumin: The scaling means that things can get big in a hurry and they can get fast in a hurry. So you get a lot of volume, things go viral, and you have a velocity of change here. New technologies are introducing themselves to the market. You have extraordinary volatility on your network and that can rumble all the way through, so that you feel it seconds after something halfway around the world has put a glitch in your supply chain. You have enormous variability. You're dealing with many different languages, both computer languages and human languages.

That means that the potential for collaboration really requires coming together in ways that helps people see very quickly why it is that they should work together, rather than go it alone. They may not have a choice, but people are still status quo animals. We're comfortable in the way that we have always done business, and it takes a lot to move us out.

It comes down to people

When crisis hits, it’s not exactly a great time to build those relationships. Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill here in United States once said "Make friends before you need them." That’s a good advice. We have great technology and we have great networks, but at the end of day, it’s people that make them work.

People rely on trust, and trust relies on relationships. Technology here is a great enabler but it’s no super bullet. It takes leadership to get people together across these networks and to then be able to scale and take advantage of what all these networks have to offer.

Gardner: Tim, another big trend today of course, is the ability to use all of this data that Zach has been describing, and you are alluding to, about what’s going on within these networks. Now, of course, with this explosive scale, the amount of that data has likewise exploded.

As we bring more of these coalescent trends together, we have the ability to deal with that scale at a lower cost than ever, and therefore start to create this dynamic of viral or virtual benefit type of effect. What I'm alluding to is more data, the more insight into what’s going on in the network, the more the people then avail themselves of that network, the more data they create, and therefore the better the analysis and the more pertinent their efforts are to their goals.

So, am I off in la-la land here or is there really something that we can point to about a virtuous adoption pattern, vis-a-vis, the ability to manage this data even as we explode the scale of commerce?

One of the reasons we're so excited about getting access to SAP HANA is the ability to offer this information up in real time.

Minahan: We've only begun to scratch surface on this. When you look at the data that goes on in a business commerce network, it’s really three levels. One is the transactional data, the actual transactions that are going on, knowing what commodities are being purchased and so on. Then, there's relationship data, knowing the relationship between a given buyer and seller.

Finally, there's what I would call community data, or community generated data, and that can take the form of performance ratings, so buyers rating suppliers and suppliers rating buyers. Others in the community can use that to help determine who to do business with or to help to detect some risk in their supply chain.

There are also community generated content, like request for proposal (RFP) templates. A lot of our communities members use a "give a template, take a template" type approach in which they are offering RFP templates to other members of the community that work well for them. These can be templates on how to source temp labor or how to source corrugated packaging.

We have dozens and dozens of those. When you aggregate all of this, the last part of the community data is the benchmarking data. It's understanding not just process benchmarking but also spend benchmarking.

One of the reasons we're so excited about getting access to SAP HANA is the ability to offer this information up in real time, at the point of either purchase or sale decision, so that folks can make more informed decisions about who to engage with or what terms to take or how to approach a particular category. That is particularly powerful and something you can’t get in a non-networked model.

Sharing data

Gardner: To that same point, Zach, are there some instances in your book, where you can point to this ability to share the data across community, whether it’s through some sort of a cloud apparatus or even a regulatory environment, where people are compelled to open up and share that is creating a new or very substantial benefits?

I am just trying to get at the network effect here, when it comes to exposing the data. I think that we're at a period now where that can happen in ways that just weren’t possible even five years ago.

Tumin: One of the things that we're seeing around the world is that innovation is taking place at the level of individual apps and individual developers. There's a great example in London. London Transport had a data set and a website that people would use to find out where their trains were, what the schedule was, and what was happening on a day-to-day basis.

As we all know, passengers on mass transit like to know what's happening on a minute-to-minute basis. London Transport decided they would open up their data, and the open data movement is very, very important in that respect. They opened the data and let developers develop some apps for folks. A number of apps developers did and put these things out on the system. The demand was so high that they crashed London Transport, initially.

London Transport took their data and put it into the cloud, where they could handle the scale much more effectively. Within a few days, they had gone from those thousand hits on the website per day to 2.3 million in the cloud.

You need governance and support people, and people to make it work and to trust each other and share information.

The ability to scale is terribly important. The ability to innovate and turn these open datasets over to communities of developers, to make this data available to people the way they want use it, is terribly important. And these kinds of industry-government relations that makes this possible are critical as well.

So across all those dimensions, technology, people, politics, and the platform, the data has to line up. You need governance and support people, and people to make it work and to trust each other and share information. These are the keys to collaboration today.

Gardner: We're coming up on our time limit, but I wanted to put myself in the place of a listener, who might be really jazzed by the potential here, but is still concerned about losing control. How do you take advantage of the mobile extended networks of social media and networks, but without losing your basic principles of good business practice and governance?

Is there something that you're seeing Tim, through your network and the way you're approaching this, that is a balancing act? How can you give some advice to someone who can start to enter these waters, but not drown or get lost?

Minahan: First, I want to talk about the dynamics going on that are fueling B2B collaboration. There is certainly the need for more productivity. So that's a constant in business, particularly as we're in tight environments. Many times companies are finding they are tapped out within the enterprise.

Becoming more dependent

The second is the leaning out of the enterprise itself with outsourcing more processes, more supply, and more activities to third parties. Companies are becoming more and more dependent on getting insights and collaborating with folks outside their enterprise.

The third is what Zach mentioned before, the changing demographics in the workforce, the millennials. They're collapsing the hierarchal command and control. They don't stand for sequestering of information with only a given few. They believe in sharing and in the knowledge of crowds. They want more collaboration with their peers, their bosses, and their business partners.

When you take that within a business context and how you put controls on it, obviously there needs to be some change. There is some change going on. There is change going on towards this wave of collaboration. Zach said before that it needs a good leader. There is change management involved. Let's not fool ourselves that technology is the only answer.

So policies need to be put down. Just like many businesses put policies down on their social media, there needs to be policies put down on how we share information and with whom, but the great thing about technology is that it can enforce those controls. It can help to put in checks and balances and give you a full transparency and audit trail, so you know that these policies are being enforced. You know that there are certain parameters around security of data.

You don't have those controls in the offline world. When paper leaves the building, you don't know. But when a transaction is shared or when information is shared over a network, you, as a company, have greater control. You have a greater insight, and the ability to track and trace.

When a transaction is shared or when information is shared over a network, you, as a company, have greater control.

So there is this balancing act going on between opening the kimono, as we talked about in '80s, being able to share more information with your trading partners, but now being able to do it in a controlled environment that is digitized and process-oriented. You have the controls you need to ensure you're protecting your business, while also growing your business.

Gardner: Zach, last word to you. What do we get? What's the payoff, if we can balance this correctly? If we can allow these new wheels of innovation to spin, to scale up, but also apply the right balance, as Tim was describing, for audit trails and access and privilege controls? If we do this right, what's in the offing? Even though it's early in the game as you pointed out, what's the potential here? When can we expect this payoff?

Tumin: I think you can expect four things, Dana. First is that you can expect innovations faster with ideas that work right away for partners. The partners who collaborate deeply and right from the start get their products right without too much error built-in and they can get them to market faster.

Second is that you're going to rinse out the cost of rework, whether it's from carrying needless inventory or handling paper that you don’t have to touch where there is cost involved. You're going to be able to rinse that out.

Third is that you're going to be able to build revenues by dealing with risk. You're going to take advantage of customer insight. You're going to make life better and that's going to be good news for you and the marketplace.

Constant learning

The fourth is that you have an opportunity for constant learning, so that insight moves to practice faster. That’s really important, because the world is changing so fast, you have the volatility, a velocity, a volume, variability, being able to learn and adapt is critical. That means embracing change, setting out the values that you want to lead by, helping people understand them.

Great leaders are great teachers. The opportunity of the networked world is to share that insight and loop it across the network, so that people understand how to improve every day and every way the core business processes that they're responsible for.

Gardner: Well, great. I am afraid we'll have to leave it there. I'd like to thank our audience for joining us. We've been discussing new levels of collaboration and how they have emerged within an increasingly networked world and how that's all coming together to impact both business and society.

I’d also like to thank our guests for joining us. Zach Tumin, Senior Researcher at the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at Harvard Kennedy School. He is also the co-author with William Bratton of this year's Collaborate or Perish.: Reaching Across Boundaries in a Networked World, and that’s published by Random House. Thanks so much Zach.

Tumin: Thank you, Dana.

Gardner: And, of course, Tim Minahan, Senior Vice-President of Global Network Strategy and Chief Marketing Officer at Ariba, an SAP company. Thanks so much, Tim.

Minahan: Thanks, Dana.

Gardner: This is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions and you’ve been listening to a sponsored BriefingsDirect broadcast. Thanks again for listening and come back next time.

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Ariba CMO Tim Minahan on How Networked Economy Benefits Spring From Improved Business Commerce and Cloud Processes

Transcript of a sponsored podcast on the upcoming Ariba LIVE Conference and how the networked economy is enabling business success.

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Dana Gardner: Hi, this is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and you're listening to BriefingsDirect.

Today, we present a sponsored podcast discussion in conjunction with the upcoming Ariba LIVE Conference in Las Vegas, which kicks off April 10, 2012. We're here with Ariba’s Chief Marketing Officer to discuss the networked economy and some of the major developments that Ariba will unveil at LIVE to help companies plug in.

As we consider not only the major business and IT trends of the day -- those being cloud computing, mobile, social, and big data -- we also need to examine the confluence of these developments and how together they impact businesses and business ecosystems.

We need to consider the impacts at a higher abstraction, at the business-process level, but not just inside of companies. We must factor how previously internal processes are now becoming externalized and that we need to do that in a safe and managed way across many enterprises and even service provider partners.

Cloud computing, the force behind a lot of this thinking, has let loose the imagination of businesses to consider anew how to outsource at this business-process level. Mobility advances the thinking of bringing processes to anyone, anywhere, with rich two-way interaction. [Disclosure: Ariba is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

Social media is driving more participation by more people into more aspects of commerce, providing in many cases, an explosive viral value to formerly linear or closed workflows. The result is a large-scale rearrangement of the constituent parts of business processes and extended enterprise functions.

The good news is that shaking up the status quo is enabling massive efficiencies with more active market benefits, shared by more participants, as they cooperate and collaborate in entirely new ways.

A large part of this intermingling of shared business processes is enabled by data-driven decisions across advanced business networks, imbuing business decisions with ongoing, real-time visibility and analytics, and making mastery of relationships between buyers and sellers less an art and more of a science.

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It may not be as romantic as hatching a business plan on a cocktail napkin, but in order to manage the scale, complexity, and required automation of these expansive new business processes, mastery of network processes with control and governance is critical.

Fly by the seat of your pants, manual, and paper-based processes simply can't keep up. As a leader in cloud-based collaborative commerce, Ariba has a unique observation of where this is going, calling it the networked economy.

Networked enterprise

Let's get a better idea of what it means to be a “networked enterprise” and how business networks will drive the future of commerce over the next few years. Let's welcome our guest, Tim Minahan, the Chief Marketing Officer at Ariba. Welcome back to BriefingsDirect, Tim.

Tim Minahan: Hi, Dana. Thanks for having me.

Gardner: Tim, it’s no longer a stretch to say that business is changing more rapidly than ever. Change is not just an exception It’s the norm, and you need to master it. I've been surprised by how dramatically this cloud-computing wave has taken off and has seemingly captured the imagination of business leaders.

How did we get here? What’s the lead up to this interesting position that you're finding yourself with your conference?

Minahan: Absolutely, Dana. You did a great job of summarizing it at the beginning of this podcast. If you look throughout history, step-change advances in productivity and business productivity have been driven by previous changes and enhancements in IT infrastructure, such as in the '80s, where you had the advent of client/server technology, desktop applications. That drove employee productivity some limited degree and allowed them to collaborate with other peers within the company.

And then in the '90s and in the 2000s, the World Wide Web spawned a slew of applications. That automated functional-specific information flows and streamlined processes for specific functions, whether it be human capital management (HCM), finance, and even purchasing, into some limited degree allowed collaboration within the enterprise.

The forces that you mentioned are conspiring with this combination of cloud computing, mobility, and collaboration through communities or social networks. We're experiencing another major shift in IT-generated productivity.

The next wave of productivity is going to allow companies to begin to extend those processes, extend that information, and extend alignment of their processes with their external partners.

Today, the next wave of productivity is going to allow companies to begin to extend those processes, extend that information, and extend alignment of their processes with their external partners, whether they be customers that they want to collaborate with more closely, or suppliers that they want to align with better and drive efficiencies with, or other partners, financial partners, logistics partners, etc., that take part in a process that the company needs to collaborate around.

We think this convergence of companies collaborating more efficiently over extended information networks is one that's going to drive this next wave of productivity.

Gardner: It seems that we're at the culmination of 30 years of IT development and advancement and maybe 100 years of business activities and advancements and they're coming together in this networked economy sense. How lofty a goal is this? Is this something that you think is years out? Is this something that we are going to always see on the horizon, but never attain, or are we on the cusp of actually doing a networked economy marketplace?

Minahan: Think about it. It’s here today. We still may be in our infancy, but you've got to think about what’s happening today. Think about it in your personal lives. That’s probably the best example. The magic of Facebook is not in its clean interface or in its news feed feature. The magic of Facebook is that it has created the world’s largest network of personal connections.

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Similarly, the beauty of Amazon.com is not that it offers the best prices on books. It’s that it offers the world’s largest and most convenient network for personal shopping.

Enterprise phenomenon

This is not just a consumer phenomenon. It’s an enterprise one. More and more businesses are looking beyond the four walls of the enterprise to extend their processes and systems, to connect and collaborate more efficiently with their customers, with their suppliers, and other trading partners, whether they're across the street or around the world.

Gardner: What's fascinating to me about that, Tim, is we had Metcalfe’s Law, where the more participants on a network, the more valuable it becomes. We certainly see that with Facebook. But what’s happening in addition is that the amount of activity that these folks do, the commerce, their actions, their priorities, is all data that could be captured and analyzed, not just data individually, but collectively.

So we're not just getting value from the network on participation. We're getting insights that filters back to how we can conduct business. How important is this notion of captured analytics along the way in this networked environment?

Minahan: It’s absolutely critical. We'll go back to those models. If you look at any of the personal networks that we rely on everyday, whether it’s Facebook, Twitter, Google, Netflix, or Amazon, they have three things in common.

Number one, as you stated earlier, they're in the cloud. These are cloud-based applications. You don’t need to install hardware or custom-configure it. You don’t need to install or manage or maintain software. It is all accessible through a web browser, whether you are in Peoria or Paris.

That gives you an additional level of trust in the purchase decision you're about to make.

The second component, as we just stated, is that all of these are ultimately networks. They are large communities of individuals, and oftentimes companies, that are digitally connected.

Think about Amazon. You don’t think about connecting to each individual merchant. Whether you want to buy a book or a blender, the merchants are all connected for you. You don’t think about settling out with Visa or MasterCard and how to integrate to them. They're all connected in there for you.

And to your last part, you have cloud-based technology, communities, and then capabilities. That's where the intelligence in the community comes in.

Again, think about Amazon. You want to buy something and you get expert opinions on "folks who have bought this product have also bought this product." That's community intelligence that helps you make a more informed decision.

Secondly, you get peer opinions, other participants in the community that rate the product that you are considering buying. That gives you an additional level of trust in the purchase decision you're about to make.

These are the types of things that are only available in a network-based model. These are the types of things that are also available to businesses in a business network-type model.

Behavioral shift

Gardner: Well, we've certainly seen a behavioral shift in people’s adoption, and even enthusiasm for these sorts of activities. We're seeing it in their personal lives. When we now apply this to enterprises, to B2B activities, to commerce, we can find that the processes are uniquely actionable and automated in the cloud, even more so than in an enterprise system of record, which could be fairly brittle.

But we're also seeing -- I think it's fairly unique -- is the ability to adjust on the fly. So we have automation and governance, but we also have exception management. We have a confluence of actionable automation that's governed and managed with insight, but we also can adjust these things on the go. I think that's something also that's fairly new to this networked environment.

Minahan: Absolutely. The power of a network using Metcalfe's Law is that each new member delivers incremental value to every existing member. Part of that is it does allow you as a business to be far more responsive. It allows you to make more informed decisions, as we talked about. You're not just making decisions based on your own input, but you're making decisions based on relationship and transaction history, as well as community opinion of a particular trading partner.

In a networked environment, you can quickly find new peers or partners that can help you execute a process. You can get informed community decision on how that partner or peer has performed in the past, so you can make a educated decision as to when and how to find alternative sources of supply, for example, or find new employees or potential employees that you could be matched with through this network.

Those are the types of things that a network model allows you to do, to make more informed decisions, to be much more responsive, and ultimately, have far greater transparency and visibility into the process.

Ariba is facilitating collaborative business commerce, allowing buyers, sellers, and other parties involved in the commerce process to reach outside their four walls.

Gardner: So we have gone into at least the business level, beyond this notion of individual networks to systems of record and core business functions being networked, being loosely coupled, and therefore part of a larger business process.

Ariba has, I think, some of the critical business functions in its sights to extend further into this networked value. Tell me a little bit about some of the core themes at Ariba LIVE and why networking -- taking advantage of some of these larger trends that we have talked about -- applies to business processes and some of the core business functions that all companies share?

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Minahan: At the end of the day, Ariba is facilitating collaborative business commerce, allowing buyers, sellers, and other parties involved in the commerce process to reach outside their four walls, to connect their systems and their processes to get greater transparency into that. That's a theme that's carrying through to Ariba LIVE.

Ariba LIVE’s theme will be around this networked enterprise, and how you enable a networked enterprise and what it means for you as a buyer, as a seller, or as a chief financial officer.

Industry leading

When you look across the agenda for Ariba LIVE, it's filled with industry-leading companies that have already embraced this network approach. Whether it's Anglo American, one of the largest mining companies, talking about how they are leveraging a networked model to identify, develop, and collaborate with sources of supply and new suppliers in the most remote regions of the world, driving a sustainable supply chain.

Whether it's Sodexo, one of the largest food-service companies that's creating some innovative ways in which they are using the network to support their highly perishable, fast-churn supply chain, and gain insight, both for them and for their trading partners. Procurement and IT have worked together to develop a networked model that allows them to be highly responsive in a very perishable supply-chain type environment.

Or whether it's GlaxoSmithKline that's leveraging a network-based environment to not only automate its invoicing process, but to help optimize cash flow, both for them and their partners.

In addition, you have a host of other companies, that are driving this network supply chain model.

We have a spotlight keynote that has driven some innovation into the federal sector. The first CIO of the United States, Vivek Kundra, is going to talk about how he developed the Cloud First Policy within the Federal Government.

You have a host of other companies, that are driving this network supply chain model.

That means, not just lowering the TCO of deploying technology to automate existing processes, but creating a new community, a new interface, a new way for the US Federal Government to connect and share information, and big data with their constituents. And that's the type of thing that's going on in the public sector, as well as in the private sector.

Gardner: That's interesting. So we are not going to just talk at the abstraction, we've got people who are putting this into practice, who have metrics of success, that can show how it's done, how this is aiding their businesses, and also supporting their supply chain and sales, marketing, and other ecosystem leveled activity. That's terrific.

Are you going to be on stage again this year, Tim. Are you the MC?

Minahan: I have the honor of being the MC this year, and it is an honor when you look out across the keynotes that we have and see what they've been able to accomplish by adopting this networked model and how it has allowed them to drive not just their supply chain strategy, but their business strategy. We think it's going to be a phenomenal show.

High-profile innovations

In addition to that content, obviously because it is Ariba LIVE, we'll be launching some very interesting and high-profile innovations, as well as partnerships that will help buyers and sellers simplify their commerce process and get more easily connected to their trading partners.

Gardner: So we will see some leading-edge adopters tell the story of what's working for them and how they got there, and some major news and announcements, as well as alliances with more network partners, right? You have to network in order to allow the network to be valuable to your clients?

Minahan: Exactly. And because it's in Las Vegas, there will be a little fun along the way as well. So we are very excited about Ariba LIVE. We encourage any of your audience members that want to attend to register at aribalive.com.

You have to network in order to allow the network to be valuable to your clients.

Gardner: You have been listening to a sponsored podcast discussion in conjunction with the upcoming Ariba LIVE Conference in Las Vegas, the week of April 9. Now, this starts April 10 right, Tim?

Minahan: Yes, it's April 10-12 at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas.

Gardner: Thanks, I enjoyed exploring some of these concepts around the networked economy.

So thank you to our guest, Tim Minahan, the Chief Marketing Officer at Ariba.

Minahan: Thank you, Dana.

Gardner: This is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions. Thanks to you also, our audience, for joining, and come back next time.

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