Why Success Greets NYSE Euronext's Community Platform for Capital Markets Cloud

Transcript of a BriefingsDirect podcast from the 2012 VMworld Conference focusing on applying the cloud model to providing a range of services to the financial industry.

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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to a special BriefingsDirect podcast series coming to you from the 2012 VMworld Conference in San Francisco. We're here the week of August 27 to explore the latest in cloud computing and software-defined datacenter infrastructure developments.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and I'll be your host throughout this series of VMware sponsored BriefingsDirect discussions.

It has been a full year since we first spoke to NYSE Euronext at the last VMworld Conference. We heard then about their Capital Markets Community Platform of vertical industry services cloud targeting the needs of Wall Street IT leaders.

As an early adopter of innovative cloud delivery and a groundbreaking cloud business model, we decided to go back and see how things have progressed at NYSE. We will learn now, a year on, how NYSE's specialized cloud offerings have matured, how the business of the financial services industry has received them, and explore how providing cloud services as a business has evolved.

We're joined by Feargal O'Sullivan, the Global Head of Alliances at NYSE Technologies. Welcome to BriefingsDirect, Feargal. [Disclosure: VMware is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

Feargal O'Sullivan: Thank you very much, Dana. Nice to be here.

Gardner: Tell me how it's going. The Capital Markets Community Platform, as we discussed, is a set of cloud services that you're providing to other IT organizations to help them better support their companies and their customers. How have things progressed over the past year?

O'Sullivan: We've been very happy with the progress we've made over the past year. When we announced at VMworld last year, we had just gone into early access for our first clients in our data center in the New York, New Jersey, Connecticut tri-state area, where we have all of our US-based markets running the New York Stock Exchange Markets, the Arca Electronic Markets, and AMEX.

That has since gone into production, has a number of clients on it, is being perceived very well by the community, and is really driving as a lynchpin of our strategy of building a global capital markets community.

Since the success of that, we've actually progressed further, to the point of having deployed the same environment in a second data center that we own and run just outside of London, in a town called Basildon, which is where we run all of our European markets, the Euronext side of NYSE Euronext.

We now have an equivalent VMware-based cloud environment and a range of ancillary services for the capital markets industry available in that location. Clients can now access, as a service, both infrastructure and platform capabilities in both of those facilities.

Furthermore, we've extended to two other financial centers in the world, one in Toronto and one in Tokyo. That's a slightly more stripped-down version of the community platform, but it's very useful for clients who are really expanding the business and gone globally.

Four locations

Now, we have those four locations up and running in production with production clients, so we are very happy with that progress.

Gardner: That's very impressive growth. In order to move this set of capabilities across these different geographies and in the data centers that you have created or acquired there has the whole software-defined datacenter model helped? I would think that in the older days -- 10 or 15 years ago with individually supported applications on individual stacks of hardware and storage -- that that would have been a far more difficult expansion project.

So what is it about the way that we're doing things now in the modern data center that's allowed you to build out so quickly?

O'Sullivan: Clearly, the technology has advanced significantly from the old days. The capability around virtualization on the the hardware server level with the VMware Hypervisors, and in particular the vCloud service, gives clients their own control over their environment.

Also on the networking side, it's become much more viable for clients to actually deploy into shared environment, still maintaining confidence that they're going to get both the security profile that they're looking for, as well as the performance capability.

We use the EMC VNX array with the FAST Cache capability to give a very stable performance profile based on demand. It allows different workloads, and yet each gets very good performance and response time. So there are many components along the way. Also, management and monitoring of these types of infrastructures have improved.

Our clients have certainly seen that enhancement in the technology. The financial services industry is unique in the way it leverages technology on two aspects.

One, security profile is absolutely critical. Security isn't just around customer data, but around application development and tools of the trade, intellectual property that firms might have, trading strategies, different analysis, analytics, and other types of components that they develop and build,. They feel they're highly proprietary in nature and don't want to allow anybody to get access to them. So they place security extremely high on the list.

The other unique aspect is performance aspect. It's a slightly different performance model from your typical sort of three-tier web store type of environment. Financial services, first of all, push very high volumes of content through their applications. They need to do so in microseconds, or at least milliseconds, of response time and latency measurements, and they also most importantly need to do so predictably.

With a big batch job of some kind, say a genetic folding job, you drop off a job, go away for 12 hours, and you come back. A little bit of clearly inefficient processing time is not great, because that drags out the whole thing over time, but there is no sort of critical "need it here," "need it now" requirement. So latency spikes are less of a problem.

Latency spikes

But in our industry, latency spikes are a real problem. People look for predictive latency, so we had to make sure that we applied a very tight security profile to our cloud, and a very high performance profile as well.

Gardner: So as you've expanded across different market regions and brought this into more of your portfolio for more of your customers, have you also increased the services? Last time, we talked about some services that were very impressive, but how have you been able to build on this cloud in terms of those value-added services that you deliver specifically to a financial clientele?

O'Sullivan: That's why we built our cloud, because there are many service providers who offer very valuable cloud capabilities that are based on core infrastructure and core computing capabilities, and they do so very well. However, we consider ourselves a vertical industry community. We're specifically focused on capital markets participants. We try to support and make it cheaper, more cost-effective, and more readily accessible to a wider range of participants to be able to get access to the markets.

So in our cloud and our community, we provide a range of platform and services that we have added. The core is "Come into our vCloud Director environment and access your compute infrastructure." By the way, we have a Compute On Demand Virtual Edition, we also have a Compute On Demand Physical Edition for those cases where that latency issue is of the utmost importance.

Then, we provide clients with the value-added features that we know they need, because they're in the capital markets business. The key one is market data. This is something that is absolutely critical in financial services, because every trade, no matter what you are buying or selling, always starts with a quote. Even if you walk into the shop and you ask how much it would it be for a can of soda, they say it's $1 or $1.20, whatever it is, and then you decide if you want to buy.

So in the financial services industry market data is the starting point, the driver of all the business. And the volumes on this, the sheer size of the content that comes down, is really outstanding. It's at the point now that even if you were to just subscribe to all North American equities and options, you'd need a 10-gigabit Ethernet pipe, and at points during the day, you're probably using upwards of 8 gigabits of that pipe just to get all that content.

Obviously, we can provide raw content, but we've added a range of services into our cloud and into the community. We can say, "We can offer you a nice filtered market data feed, where you just present us with the list of instruments you want, and we can add value-added calculations, do analytics, and provide that to you."

We've also developed an historical market-data access service. So if you want to go back and test your strategies against previous days of trading, back for many, many years, we have a database that's deployed in the cloud. So you can query the database, load it into your virtual environment, and analyze and back-test your strategies.

We've added order-routing capabilities, so when you are ready to send your orders to the market, if you are a market maker yourself, you might go direct to our gateway. If you're a sponsored participant, you might go through our risk-managed gateway, which would be sponsored by a broker.

Or if you are just a regular buy-side firm, a money manager, you might use our routing network and ask us to write your orders to the different brokers or the different markets, and we can handle that. Those are either ends of the trade.

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Integration pieces

On Thursday, Aug. 30, I'm going to be presenting with VMware and EMC in one of the breakout sessions about us moving up the stack to start offering more of the integration pieces of this. We're using the Spring environment and a range of other VMware tools, GemFire, and so on, to demonstrate a full trading system deployed in the virtual environment with the integration tools -- all running hosted in our environment.

It's more of a framework that we're showing, but it provides platform as a service (PaaS), not just the market data in, which is our specialty, and the order routing out. Once you're within your environment, the range of additional tools makes it easy for you to develop and customize your own trading tools and your own trading strategies. That's something I will be talking about on Thursday.

Gardner: That's very interesting. It appears that what you've done here with your intermediary cloud is developed a fit-for-purpose value to such things as data services. Then, you've applied that to other value services like order services and now even integration services.

I think it's a harbinger of what we should expect in many other industries. Rather than a fire hose of either services or data, picking and choosing and letting an intermediary like yourselves provide that with the value-add, seems to be more efficient and valuable.

Looking at this as a value proposition, how has this been going as a business? Have you been enjoying uptake? I know you can't go into too much detail, but has the reception in the market satisfied your initial or hopeful business requirements around this as a business, as a profit and loss center?

O'Sullivan: The good news is that we've definitely had great progress here. We have a number of clients in all of the locations I mentioned. We're continuing to grow. It's a tough environment, as you can imagine, both just in the general economy and in particular in the financial services industry. So we expect to continue to grow this significantly further.

We have been certainly very happy with the uptake so far. We knew that we were going out well ahead of everybody else and we were very keen to do so, because we see and understand the vision that VMware and EMC in particular have been promoting over the past few years. We agree with it fully. We feel like we're uniquely positioned within the capital markets industry as the neutral party.

Remember, we're just a place where people go to trade. We don't decide what you buy or what you sell or how much it should be. We just provide the facility, the rules, and the oversight to ensure an orderly market. We wanted to make it easier and more cost-effective for firms to get access to that environment.

So by providing all of this capability, we think we're in a fantastic position now, that as more and more firms continue to explore virtualization and outsourcing of non-business critical functions, which for a while used to be running on your own servers, but which are now nothing but overhead.

We see them moving more and more into the cloud. We expect over the next two or three years, that this is really going to explode. We intend to be there, established, fully in production, tried and tested, and leading the industry from the front, as we think we should be with the a name like the New York Stock Exchange.

Well-known brand

That’s a brand that's so well-known globally. It's the best place to trade. It's the most reliable and most secure place to trade stocks, with the best oversight, and we want to apply that model to all of the services that we offer our clients.

Gardner: Let's drill just a little bit down into the notion of being able to add on these services, whether it's integration orders or data services. Is there something particular about the architecture that you've adopted that allows you to progress into these newer areas, maybe even in the future delivering feeds through a different format, satisfying needs around mobile devices, say HTML5.

I'm not focused so much on the application that you will be pursuing, but the ability to pursue more applications without necessarily a whole lot of additional infrastructure investment. How does that work?

O'Sullivan: The key for us was that we developed and built our own data center, which we operate and manage. It's a unique environment in Mahwah, New Jersey. We also built and developed our own in Basildon, just outside London. Those two facilities were built as Tier-4 guided data centers to the highest standards of reliability and security. Every time I go there, I'm amazed at the level of attention, the attention to detail that our engineers put into designing it to handle all sorts of occurrences.

The reason is that there is so much content created in these facilities. Traders gravitate towards liquidity, and we're a source of liquidity. We're probably the single biggest equity and options venue in North America, so traders are attracted to be there.

Given the electronic nature of the market, forgetting about high frequency trading, everything is electronic. So rather than take applications and deploy them in Timbuktu or wherever you choose to deploy your application, somewhere away from this facility and pay the expense of wide area network connections and so on, it makes more sense to deploy your applications close to the content that you care about.

If there is 8 gigabit bursts of market data on the network, why would you try to bring that 50 miles away to your own office? Why not take the applications that process that data and deploy them in there? With that sort of thought process in mind, we continue to build out a range of value-added services that we think clients would require.

We're also well aware that our main purpose in life is to be this neutral venue that creates markets and allows people to come and trade. So we're never going to be the best person, the best firm, or the best vendor at developing every possible requirement that every particular capital market’s participant might need. That's where our Global Alliance Program comes in.

I've been focused on working on our partnerships and ensuring that, as clients deploy into the cloud and they need market data, routing, risk management, back-office processing, and historical analysis. They also need different types of analytics, and they might need other services like email archiving and storage. They need to comply with regulation and so they need regulatory reporting services.

Not generic

There is such a wide range of capabilities required that are very specific. They're not generic. You're not going to go to some telco provider’s cloud and have all these firms that can offer you all these services there. There needs to be enough potential clients before a vendor is going to want to deploy their applications in this environment.

So we're building this community. We're basically saying that we have over 2,000 firms connected to our network, hundreds in our data centers. We have a wide range of vendors and we're continually working to add more so that it can offer services to those firms.

You can use our infrastructure, our cloud, and some of the integration capability that we've developed, both ourselves and through our relationships with vendors like VMware and EMC, to add on these capabilities that the firms are going to need and make a one-stop shop, a community, a place where you can go to get all the applications needed, similar to the app store model.

Gardner: You've defined what we should expect for public-cloud services. There is some thinking in the marketplace that there will be two or three public cloud providers, and everyone will go there, but I really think you have defined it by having a community close to their customers, recognizing that the architecture and the association with data and the integration is essential. Then, that value-add for applications and services on top of that means an ecosystem of cloud providers and not just a handful. So I really think you've painted the picture of the true future on cloud.

O'Sullivan: Thank you. We certainly see it that way. Our clients have taken us up on it already. While we still think it's early days, we're confident that we're going in the right direction, and that this will definitely, definitely take off in a big way, and within five years we will be looking back at how quaint this conversation was.

Gardner: I really enjoyed speaking with you, Feargal. We have been talking about the success of specialized vertical industry cloud delivery models and how they are changing the IT game in such mission critical industries as financial services.

I would like to thank our guest, Feargal O'Sullivan, the Global Head of Alliances at NYSE Technologies. Thank you, sir.

O'Sullivan: Thank you very much, Dana. I really appreciate the time to speak with you.

Gardner: And I also thank our audience for joining this special podcast coming to you from the 2012 VMworld Conference in San Francisco. I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host throughout this series of podcast discussions. Thanks again for listening and come back next time.

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From VMworld, NYSE Euronext on Hybrid Cloud Vision and Strategy Behind the Capital Markets Community Platform Vertical Cloud

Transcript of a BriefingsDirect podcast from the VMworld 2011 Conference focusing on NYSE Euronext's use of cloud in making a foray into providing customer services in a vertical market.

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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to a special BriefingsDirect podcast series coming to you from the VMworld 2011 Conference in Las Vegas. We're here in the week of August 29 to explore the latest in cloud computing and virtualization infrastructure developments.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and I’ll be your host throughout this series of VMware-sponsored BriefingsDirect discussions. [Disclosure: VMware is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

When we hear about cloud, especially public clouds, we often encounter one-size-fits-all services. Advanced adapters of cloud delivery models are quickly creating more specialized hybrid clouds for certain industries. And they're looking to them as both major sources of new business, and the means to bring much higher IT efficiency to their clients.

Today, we'll learn about how the NYSE Euronext recently unveiled one such vertical offering, their Capital Markets Community Platform. We’ll see how they built the cloud, which amounts to a Wall Street IT services destination, what it does, and how it’s different from other cloud offerings.

Here to tell us about how specialized clouds are changing the IT game in such vertical industries as finance is Steve Rubinow, Executive Vice-President and Chief Information Officer at NYSE Euronext. Welcome, Steve.

Steve Rubinow: Hello there.

Gardner: I’d like to hear more about how you put your cloud together, but before we do that, you are delivering more than compute power on demand. You have some very specialized services of historical trading data, innovative trading services, and even third-party applications. And you're supporting these both inside your cloud as well as your clients'. So maybe you could help us understand how you came about to define this type of offering. Why have you done it this way?

Rubinow: It’s the convergence of a couple of trends and also things that our customer started to tell us. Like a lot of companies, we started to use cloud technology within our own company to service our own internal needs for the reasons that many people do -- lower cost, more flexibility, more rapid spin up, those kinds of things, and we found, of course, that was very useful to us.

At the same time, we've talked to a lot of our customers via our commercial division, which we call NYSE Technologies. By virtue of all the turbulence that's happened in the world, especially in the financial markets in the last couple of years, a lot of our customers -- big ones, small ones, banks, brokerages, and everyone in between -- said the infrastructure that we traditionally have supported within our own companies, is a new model that we could adapt, given these technologies that are available, and given that we NYSE Technologies wants to provide these services. We asked if we should take a different look at what we are doing and see if we should pursue some of these things.

What it comes down right down to is that many of these companies said that maintaining their own infrastructure is not a competitive advantage for them. It’s really a cost of doing business like telephones and office furniture. It would be better if someone else helped them with it, maybe not 100 percent, but like we propose to do, and everyone wins. They get lower cost and they get to offload a burden that wasn’t particularly strategic to them.

We say we can do it with good service and at a good price, and everybody comes away a winner. So we launched this program this summer, with one offering called Compute on Demand, which has a number of attributes that make it different than your run-of-the-mill public cloud.

Higher Requirements

In the capital markets community, we have some attributes of infrastructure, a higher requirement, that most companies wouldn’t care so much about, but in our industry they are very, very critical. We have a higher level of security than an average company would probably pay attention to.

And reliability, as you can imagine. The markets need to be up all the time when they are supposed to be open. A few seconds makes a big difference. So we want to make sure that we pay extra attention to reliability.

Another thing is performance. Our industry is very performance-sensitive. Many of the executions are measured in micro-seconds. Any customer of ours, including ourselves, are sensitive to make sure that any infrastructure that we would depend on has the ability to make sure that transactions happen. You don’t find that in the run-of-the-mill public cloud because there just isn’t a need for the average company to do that.

For that reason, we thought our private offering, our community cloud, was a good idea. By the way, our customers seem to be nodding their heads a lot to the idea as well.

Gardner: Could I understand a bit more about the architecture? You do have public cloud services, those being hosted by you and delivered to your clients, but you're also having some element of this as your clients choose on-premises. How does that work? What's the split or why have it a hybrid model?

We're a very rich source of market data, as one might imagine. We generate a lot of market data ourselves because of the large marketplace we are.

Rubinow: In the spirit of trying to accommodate all the needs that people will have, for many of the cloud services, you get the most leverage out of them, if you as a customer are situated in the data center with us.

Many customers choose to do that for the simple reason of speed-of-light issues. The longer the network is between Point A and Point B, the longer it takes a message to get across it. In an industry where latency is so important, people want to minimize that distance, and so they co-locate there. Then, they have high-speed access to everything that's available in the data center.

Of course, customers outside the data center certainly can have access to those services as well. We have a dedicated network that we call SFTI, Secure Financial Transaction Infrastructure. That was designed to support high speed, high reliability, and high resiliency, things that you would expect from a prominent financial services network. Our customers come to our data centers over that network, and they can avail themselves of the services that we have there too.

Earlier in the conversation I talked about the attributes of the infrastructure, but there's something that we also have in our data center that our customers make use of. They have for a while, and now even more so, in a more flexible manner via some of these cloud services.

We're a very rich source of market data, as one might imagine. We generate a lot of market data ourselves because of the large marketplace we are. We take data from other marketplaces, consolidate them, and provide feeds of those data to our customers. We want to make sure we do that in a fast, cost-effective, flexible way.

Historical data

We have historical data that lot of our customers would like to take a look at and analyze, rather than having to store the data themselves. We have it all here for them. We have applications like risk management and other services that we intend to offer in the future that customers would be hard-pressed to find somewhere else, or if they could find it somewhere else, they probably won't find it in as efficient a manner. So it makes sense for them to come to us to take a look at it and see how they can take advantage of it here.

Gardner: And so it certainly seems that,with the mission-critical nature of the issues and the requirements that you mentioned that applying a cloud model here, if you can do it there you could probably do it anywhere. Let's learn a little bit more about NYSE for those folks on the podcast that aren't familiar with you. Tell us about your organization, your global nature, and where you expect to deliver these cloud services over time?

Rubinow: The full name of the company is NYSE Euronext, and that reflects the fact that we are a collection of markets not only in the United States but also in Europe. We operate a number of cash and derivative exchanges in Europe as well. So we talk about the whole family being part of NYSE Euronext.

We segment our business into three segments. There is the cash business, which is global. There is the derivatives business, which is global, and those are the things that people would have normally associated our company with, because the thing we've been doing for many years.

The newest piece of our business is the piece that I've referred to earlier and that's our commercial technology business, which we call NYSE Technologies. Through that segment of the business, we offer all these services, whether it be software products we might develop that our customers take advantage of or services as we've already referenced.

Over the years, we've been offering these services to our customers, and then a couple of years ago we decided to do it in a much bigger way, because we realized the need was there.

The genesis of that is that we did a lot of good things for ourselves in terms of high speed, high performance, high transaction volumes, reliability, security, functionality, low cost -- all these things that are necessary to be a major competitor in today's market.

In a small way, over the years, we've been offering these services to our customers, and then a couple of years ago we decided to do it in a much bigger way, because we realized the need was there. Our customers told us that they would take advantage of these services. So we made a bigger effort in that regard. Right now, the commercial part of our business is several hundred million dollars a year in terms of revenue.

We have great expectations to grow that significantly over the next few years, and it's through that that we offer it. Now, our two major hubs, our data centers that we just built. are almost brand spanking new. They are full production facilities. We finished them last year.

One is in northern New Jersey and the other one is outside of London. Most of the space in those data centers are for our customers, not for us. We certainly have a piece of those data centers that we run our core operations from, because they were designed to do that, but we also had in mind all the products and services that we can offer our customers that choose to be in the data center with us. So you'll find that a good number of our customers have taken us up on that, and are co-located with us.

We plan to have additional centers not identical to our prime data centers that we have in London and New Jersey, but in Asia, Europe, and North America, where customers can come, take advantage of services that we offer there and then can connect to the other data centers as need be.

Question of latency

I have to add one note in terms of latency. For people who aren't familiar with our obsession with latency, the true textbook cloud profile means that one could execute cloud-like services. If we had 20 data centers across the world, they could be executed across any of those data centers and transparent to the customer as long as they get done.

In ours latency-sensitive world, we are a little bit constrained with some of the services that we offer. We can't afford to be moving things around from data center to data center, because those network differences, when you're measuring things in micro-seconds, are very noticeable to our customers. So some of our services could be distributed across the world, but some of our services are very tied to a physical location to make sure we get the maximum performance.

To add further to that, one of the cornerstone technologies, as we all know, of cloud computing is virtualization. That gives you a lot of flexibility to make sure that you get maximum utilization of your compute resources.

Some of the services we offer can't use virtualization. They have to be tied to a physical device. It doesn't mean that we can't use a lot of other offerings that VMware provides to help manage that process, but some are tied to physical devices, because virtualization in some cases introduces an overhead. Again, when you're measuring in micro-seconds, it's noticeable. Many other of our services where virtualization is key to what we do to offer the flexibility in cost to our customers.

So we have kind of a mixed bag of unique provisioning that's designed for the low-latency portion of our business, and then more general cloud technologies that we use for everything else in our business. You put the two of them together and we have a unique offering that no one else that we know of in the world offers, because we think we're the first, it’s not among the first, to do this.

You put the two of them together and we have a unique offering that no one else that we know of in the world offers.

Also, we have a very focused target customer base here. It's not for the average company. It's for those customers that demand these kinds of things, and we're determined to make sure they get what they want.

Gardner: Okay, Steve, you've certainly outlined a very impressive capability set and because you're involved with cloud services, whether they're built on virtualization infrastructure or not, it seems to me that you're going to be able to add more services and really judge closely what your customers want and demand, gather their trust, demonstrate your value, and then perhaps be in a position to add even more services over the coming year. So this is a rather big business undertaking for you. This cloud is really an instrument for your business in a major way.

Rubinow: That's right. Sometimes we think the core of our business is trading. That is the core. That's our legacy That's the core of what we do. It's a very important source of our business, and it generates a lot of the things that we've been talking about. Without our core business we wouldn’t have the market data to offer to our customers in a variety of formats.

The technologies that we used to make sure that we were the leader in the marketplace in terms of trading technology and all the infrastructure to support that, that's also what we're offering our customers. What we're trying to do is cover all the bases in the capital markets community, and not only trading services, which of course is the center of what we do and it's core to everything that we do.

All the things that surround that our customers can use to support their traditional trading activities and then other things that they didn't used to look to us to do. These are things like extensive calculations that they would not have asked the NYSE to do, but today they do it, because we provide the infrastructure there for them.

Fulfilling a need

It’s the inner layer of trading technology plus everything on the periphery that we can imagine and offer to our customers that our customers can imagine themselves as fulfilling a need of theirs. We're intent on doing that. If you think of this as a supply-chain approach, we’re trying to cover every base we can in the supply chain to make sure that we can be a primary provider for all of our customers’ needs in the space.

Gardner: It’s a little bit soon, I suppose, to develop metrics of success. As you pointed out, you've been doing this now just for the summer in a full general availability mode. But do you have any sense from your customers? Are they witnessing removal of redundancy? Are they able to remove costs. And do they have some ability to compare and contrast the way they did business as usual and the way that they’re starting to employ more of your services? What are some of the underlying numbers perhaps of how this works economically?

Rubinow: From a metrics standpoint, it's probably too early to provide metrics, but I can tell you, qualitatively speaking, the few customers that we have that were early adopters are happy to get on stage with us and give great testimonials about their experience so far. So that’s a really good leading indicator.

Again, without offering numbers, our pipeline of people wanting these services globally has been filling very nicely. So we know we've hit a responsive chord. We expect that we will fulfill the promises that we’re offering and that our customers will be happy. It’s too early, though, to say, "Here's three case studies that show, our customers are saying how it’s gone, because they haven’t been in it long enough to deliver those metrics.

Gardner: Speaking of being on stage, you yourself have been on stage here at VMworld in Las Vegas and told your story. Maybe you could reiterate a bit or summarize what it is that you’ve done vis-à-vis VMware to enable this capability.

Many of the things needed to be done from scratch, because we didn’t have models to look for that we could copy in a marketplace.

Rubinow: When we were putting together our cloud architecture and thinking about the special needs that we had -- and I keep on saying it’s not run-of-the-mill cloud architecture -- we we’re trying to make sure that we did it in a way that would give us the flexibility, facilities, and cost that we needed. Many of the things needed to be done from scratch, because we didn’t have models to look for that we could copy in a marketplace.

And we also realized that we couldn’t do it ourselves; we have a lot of smart people here, but we don’t have all the smart people we need. So we had to turn to vendors. We were talking to everyone that had a cloud solution. Lots of vendors have lots of solutions. Some are robust, and some are not so robust.

When it came down to it, there were only a couple of vendors that we felt were smart enough, able enough, and real enough to deliver the things to us that we felt we needed to get started. I'm sure we will progress over time, and there will be other people who will include the picture.

Top of the list

But VMware was at the top of that list of technologies that we have been using internally for several years, been very happy with. Based on our historical relationship with VMware and the offerings that VMware have in the traditional VMware space, plus the cloud offerings, things like Cloud Director and other things, that we felt that those were good cornerstone technologies to make sure we have the greatest chance of success with few surprises.

And we needed partners to push the envelope, because we view ourselves as being innovative and groundbreaking, and we want to do things that are first in the industry. In order to do those with better certainty of outcome, you have to have good partners, and I think that’s what we found at VMware.

Gardner: We’re almost out of time but now that you've had this experience with building out this cloud in a fashion where, if you could do it your way, you can probably apply this to many other industries in terms of performance and security.

What did you learn? Is there any 20-20 hindsight or Monday morning quarterback types of insights that you could offer to others who are considering such cloud and/or vertical specialty cloud implementations?

Rubinow: It goes back to the comments I just made in terms of choosing your partners carefully. You can’t afford to have a whole host of partners, dozens of them, because it would get very confusing. There's a lot of hype in the marketplace in terms of what can be done. You need people that have abilities, can deliver them, can service them, and can back them up.

You can’t afford to have a whole host of partners, dozens of them, because it would get very confusing.

Every one of us who’s trying to do something a little bit different than the mainstream, because we have a specific need that we’re trying to service, has to go into it with a careful eye towards who we’re working with.

So I would say to make sure that you ask the right questions. Make sure you kick the tires quite a bit. Make sure that you can count on what you’re going to implement and acquire. It’s like implementing any new technology It’s not unique to cloud.

If you're leading the charge, you still want to be aggressive but it’s a risk management issue You have to be careful what you’re doing internally. You have to be careful who you’re working with. Make sure that you dot your I’s and cross your T’s. Do it as quickly as you can to get to market, but just make sure that you keep your wits about you.

Gardner: Excellent. We’ve been talking about advanced adoption of specialized cloud delivery models and how they’re changing the game for IT in such vertical industries as finance. Also, I imagine that this is really going to be changing your business model So congratulations on that.

Rubinow: Thanks.

Gardner: We’ve been talking with Steve Rubinow, the Executive Vice President and Chief Information Officer at NYSE Euronext. I appreciate your time, Steve.

Rubinow: Thank you.

Gardner: And thanks to our audience for joining this special podcast, coming to you from the 2011 VMworld Conference in Las Vegas.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host throughout this series of podcast discussions. Thanks again for listening, and come back next time.

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Transcript of a BriefingsDirect podcast from the VMworld 2011 Conference focusing on NYSE Euronext's use of cloud in making a foray into providing customer services in a vertical market. Copyright Interarbor Solutions, LLC, 2005-2011. All rights reserved.

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